Hello Derek,
Before i tell you my story of Shogun Method let me introduce you briefly. I’m from Mongolia(Central Asia). And Mongolian girls behave different than other country’s females do. But the all women are all same in their mental. I changed it very very little bit and I tried this on girl in nightclub, it worked great. I tried it on attractive lady, everything went smoothly 😀 . But now i attached to the lady who was kind, soft-hearted, and attractive. We met dozens of times and had great, joyful times together. But last week something that i cannot point out happened to her and she doesn’t want to tell about it to me. I matched her mood with mirroring technique and messaging to her: “I feel terrible. If there’s anything I can do to make you feel better, let me know, okay?” And she answers: “You can’t make me feel better” and i stuck at what to say to make her engage to my words and let her tell everything that she is hiding from me. Thanks

Hy derek..after learning the IRAE model there is this beautiful classmate of mine i started talking to.i fractionated her twice.after the first fractionation she started showing alot of interest.i followed this with the entice-repel sequence and she even responded better.i did another fractionation(a true story of my childhood, inshort the pros and cons of being raised by someone other than your parent,)it worked well too.but out of the blues she started acting weird.i texted and she replied that “you are too emotional….i would not date you.i am sorry”..how should i go about it.should i text her back,cut communication?thank you

I know Shogun method disdains the PUA stuff. I never actually read much of that myself as using “lines” never sat well with me. It just doesn’t feel natural. However, there was one concept I got from some PUA friend that I really think does go along with Shogun Method. Oneitus- the idea that one woman is the only woman for you (that is to say, you have to have a specific girl and no other girl is good enough). You know, that One girl you can’t stop thinking about and would pursue to the end of the world? That one.
I bring this up because in a lot of posts I see other men talking like that. I worry that, in that state of Oneitus, you care too much about the outcome to really be effective. We’ve all been there, or at least most of us. Inevitably and ironically I’ve found the LESS I care, the more others do. Its almost like the act of valuing someone makes them devalue you. It doesn’t mean I actually stop caring about them. But I refrain from behaving like I do anymore. And I most certainly try to keep in mind that, as far as women go, there are literally billions of them out there and if she’s one in a million, there’s several hundred million of her world-wide. By trying to win a woman through the traditional courtship rules, you actually put her off.
And one more thought in response to the recent newlsetter:
There is nothing inherently good or evil about the Shogun Method. Is a “gun” good or evil? No. Its entirely up to the user. Also, the Shogun Method is about effective communication. You aren’t controlling a woman so much I think as you are effectively communicating both your value to her and what you want from her. When you do this, you appeal to her nature as a woman and she is compelled to be attracted to you because you are filling the role of Alpha male. That’s not manipulation, that’s communication! You aren’t holding a gun to her head and demanding anything from her. You are presenting yourself in an effective manner to demonstrate value, whatever you want that value to be.
And a final thought about Fractionation: In the newsletter Derek mentions that “Frank” said Fractionation is basically very dangerous and that’s why its trained by professionals. This implies that everyone going for professional training is moral and ethical and will adhere to whatever promises they make in the training to only use it a certain way. For all the professionals of every field out there I think its safe to say we’ve all seen that the logic in that statement fails. Saying that its powerful and should be used with respect I think is enough. There is no need to take a silly oath, as the unethical will ignore it anyways and the ethical are going to follow it that way with or without an oath.
I for one, greatly appreciate Derek Rake and this website. Its helped me better understand myself as well as people. You can study in books for years and miss a lot of the information Derek has neatly organized here in the IRAE model (though I question the necessity of the final step still…guess that really depends on if you want to get married or not, but I’m still kind of new at this).
Thanks Derek.

After reading through the method numerous times, I can now easily see the mistakes that I have made with women in the past.
Naturely I will not be making those mistakes in the future with my newfound knowledge that your Shogun method has given me.
I have a couple of questions regarding its effectiveness. Obviously I can understand that your method would be dynamite with younger women. But is it just as effective on older divorced women especially those that appear “jaded” towards men ? The second question is
how effective is it with women that are a psyco’s and or narcisstic ?? As I don’t really want to get involved with those types !!

I know this girl and I tried the whole IRAE model thing on her

I did the intrigue stage which was asking her about if she knows what guys actually know what girls want, then rapport stage of agreeing with things and mirroring to her while not being too dependent, then I did fractionation and push pull tension loop thing (from sonic seduction) for attraction stage, then I did the black rose sequence.

This worked on lots of people, but there is this one girl who is really cold, she is one of the hardest most hard-to get type and really egotistical what should i do (p.s. she does not have boyfriend so don’t need the boyfriend destroyer)

Derek

I have many girls around but none of them is good at understanding or speaking English.
What should I do?
Should I deliver SHOGUN METHOD in different language?

Derek, Firstly I’d like to thank you for sharing this priceless info. I was surprised to see how many aspects of the shogun method I had unknowingly been using with great success before finding out about your method, as well as the things I was doing to digress my progress that I had made. This past summer I met a girl I was instantly attracted too.. She was on “a break” from her bf of 3 years who was returning soon from Spain. I believe I have the upper hand although there is still platonic feelings between her and her now ex who goes to school with her..She is in Spain now for the next 3 months, as the frequency of our communication started to wane I was beginning to come across as needy and I could definitely notice effect this was having on her, finally I video chatted her fractioned heavily and used some synesthesia to link some specific feelings with colors I totally reversed the effects caused by me coming off as needy or desperate. Ive been using implanted commands via text as well as alot of push/pull. Because we rarely have time to video chat or talk on the phone.(this limits the amount of kino) What are your biggest suggestions to keep her fixated and obsess over me? Can I utilize the enslavement method without physical touch or should I wait a month until I am visiting her in Spain.

Derek

I think that SHOGUN METHHOD’s effectiveness will dilute if I use it in another language.
Even then if you tell me to use it in my native language then I will obey you.
Please give your advice again on this topic.

Regards
G

Hi Derek,

First, I want to say that I’m glad this discussion section has opened up, I am learning a lot of things to try from other members. I just wish you had a more inter-discussion blog where we could discuss experimental techniques, etc, since I have a lot of them.

Well, Calibration is still an issue. Also, women still baffle me. One minute they are hot and ready and the next cold and distant. I think perhaps I need to keep better frame control.

My latest, I was talking to her workmate and used role-reverrsal ‘….you just said that because I am so good looking –well actually i’m starting to believe that one myself! But my target turned around and said casually, well thats one thing I won’t argue, you are really good looking….and she was serious.

I looked her dead in the eye and she said ‘what….’ and got puppy dog eyes, well, I laid out a ‘hey, I like to go down to the gaslamp sometime, maybe next time I GO DOWN YOU CAN COME…

That did it….she said ‘I’d love to come with you and started giggling….’ Derek, I can’t tell if she caught the ambiguous meaning or not! Anyway, I pushed just a little, she stood me up.

So I have ignored her for a few days, I won’t talk to her for a week. Anyway, who cares? When I see her again she might apologize, I’l just say well, if you dont’ like being with awesome guys, I can’t help you….. Then i will go back and push again later…..maybe run do emotion path or another pattern….I’ve done almost nothing except fractionate her and tell her a few stories…

One thing happened, when she told me she was married I said, ‘well you don’t need to tell me your personal problems’ Her response? YOU ASSHJOLE, and she hit me and giggled.

Than about a week later she causally mentioned she had moved back to her mom and hinted at problems with her relationship.

My calibration sense would tell me–she has opened up, we have sufficient rapport, some attraction still should be built Also I sense she is cautious, and has been testing me–that’s why she waited to tell me she is married, then waited to tell me she is having problems. I sense I need to push gently and pull back again…slowly…..a little at a time.

Then I can get her alone, run October Man 2.0 (energy rose/black rose) and it is over. Can you critique my calibration sense?

Hi Derek,

I just want to say again, thanks. I’ve beaten to death just about every topic on every forum here, and I still go through whole programs like sonic seduction, etc, that I own, and remind myself of the importance of each part of the whole integrated program you present here. So thanks for your patience, I really appreciate it.

The question is, what next? I am thinking of experimental projects since I am working heavily on my mentalist and hypnosis (as a stage show type of thing.) I have no particular goals in mind, but I would like to say, pick up two girls at once and do them both, or have maybe three girls live with me and share me with enthusiasm. LOL (Impossible?)

I want to say, I have never had the need to enslave anyone yet, she is going to have to be really special for me to make a woman a keeper. I just want to have fun.

So, I’ll be posting things that work time to time in the appropriate forum, and I’ll always shill for you. I started with Sonic Seduction, and ended up at this point and I’ve benefited in every aspect of my life.

Thanks, and may the Gods of Love always shine down on you.

i Derek,

I wanted to tell you that, using the IRAE method, I’ve scored 4 touchdowns in a row with a bit of modification to my attraction routine. I’ve added an attraction routine with fractionation, it is an embedded ‘Falling In Love’ pattern as well as a boyfriend destroyer. I’ve scored 4 women–2 married, and 2 single 26 year olds–and have been able to get the women to actually fall in love with me in 20 to 25 minutes. here’s what’s happening:

I first use my ‘ black cloud’ pattern which I have discussed numerous times on here, about me almost meeting death from liver disease. I fractionate the women hard, and when I finally bring them to ‘sunshine’ I end it with ‘I have this feeling, like a glowing ball of energy inside me, I can feel my life. DON’T YOU NOTICE hOW YOU CAN FEEL ALIVE LIKE A WARM BALL OF ENERgY IS INSIDE YOU? I get agreement on this.

During this pattern, I leave these treads ‘hanging’ 1) how I was left by my wife, and alone — hAVE YOU EVER FELT ThAT? 2) I studied about life and death, heaven and hell, internal energy, etc. I do this to set them up for metaphysical/new age patterns, so they are congruent.

After some rapport building, I run this pattern, almost verbatim. For reference, it is run EXACTLY like DERREN BROWN’S ‘REALITY Shift’ pattern with the same anchors, as seen on you tube. The key is to first get them to identify ‘that place inside were absolute truth exists, were you know that everyting is true’ Then I run this pattern. When I am talking about the ‘place were absolute truth exists, I have an anchor that is my left and over my heart. here is the pattern:

When I was sick, I began to see everything in terms of certainty and uncertainty. On one hand I was deathly ill, and felt a great amount of uncertainty about ever being healthy again without treatment. On the other hand, after I had been treated I became certain that I would live; I felt my life again, with certainty, deep inside in a place where you know everything is absolutely true.
Can you find that place in yourself where absolute truth exists? For example, in that place you KNOW with absolute certainty your name, that you love your family, etc. It is absolutely true. Find that place.
Many things work like that in life in terms of certainty and uncertainty. For example, you might have met a man, or even have a husband, who you first met and after a brief feeling of uncertainty, you began to see things that you like and slowly it became a certainty that you wanted to be with the person; you might have even married them. However, often as not, there remains some uncertainty inside yourself because that special person has done or said something that makes you doubt them; and though life continues with them, there remains a cloud of uncertainty that might be unsettling—or it might not. Can you picture that uncertainty?
So, what are the things, the traits, the characteristics that you find attractive in a man? Think deeply and tell me. I’ll bet you even like or dislike a man almost instantly; if you dislike them, they remain on the uncertain side as long as you know them. Tell me know.
Directions: After the elicitation, mirror back the things like this:
Oh. So you mean, when you meet a man, and you like him, you begin to see X, Y, and Z, a cluster of feelings and emotions. Can you see it as a ball of feelings and emotions, a glowing ball of everything you like?
So as you begin to see those things, more and more of them in the man you are looking at, it becomes a certainty that he is special, and suddenly you find yourself in that place of absolute truth, and you see the man as a glowing ball of feelings of the things you love, and you realize that you are looking into the eyes of a man you are in love with. Can you picture that? Let it run through your head if you will, but you don’t have to. In the end, you REACH OUT YOUR HAND and touch the hand (extend your hand) of the man you are in love with.

Thats it. I have two women telling me they are in love with me, one married woman talking dirty and making lewd suggestions, and the other married woman, she told me EVERYThINg about her life, including how many men she slept with, etc–and I never asked her for ANY of that information.

This pattern is so potent I feel almost ashamed–but hey, I am a Jedi Knight of the Derek Rake Order, so I accept my nature as a manipulator. One thing, I do pull back a lot, and use all the tools and tricks that are shown in insider labs, Sonic Seduction, and the Dark Rake Method. I’m always fractionating, building more attraction and rapport, keeping intrigue running, and in general letting it flow naturally. IT WORKS!

One last thing I saw–I haven’t used more than 25 minutes for the whole thing–but I had the sensation that hours had passed, i.e. I experienced Time Dilation when using this pattern.

Why is this pattern so brutally effective????? It'[s way more potent than what I’ve been doin.

Oh, and one other think Derek.

For the times that I MIRACULOUSLY made it to the rapport stage, not once has the girl asked questions. Of any kind. EVER.

I even when to the extend where after each break in between the story, I would ask her if she had any questions. AND. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. She said no. I’m doing my best not to kick the wall Derek.

All help is REALLY appreciated. Thanks 🙂

Derek,
Please, as soon as possible, I need some help with some trouble I got myself into here. My instincts tell me its salvageable, and that its not exactly over…and I apologize in advance for the long story…I tried to keep it as brief as possible…
I’ve had some wonderful success with the Shogun method, but I made a big mistake. I never meant for things to get so out of hand. I didn’t mean for things to go the way they did. The story, in short is this:
I was practicing Shogun techniques, and slowly working towards having a woman fall in love with me. I meant for us to be close friends. I didn’t want things to get to where they did. You see, she’s married with two children and I didn’t want to be a home wrecker. I just wanted a close friend. I was already willing to walk away from the physical aspects of the relationship. I even told her at the start that I didn’t want that kind of relationship with her because then I’d really lose her forever and we’d both be miserable. I made it clear that I didn’t want her to have to be in a position of choosing between me and her kids (I’m in China and the laws out here are very unfair to women in most cases, even if they aren’t written that way…short story…if she leaves her husband, or he leaves her, he gets the kids and she’d likely never see them again). I can’t let that happen. So I wasn’t going to do anything….but…
Its kind of hard to not do anything when a woman is pursuing you. Especially one you really do admire and love. We hugged. We kissed. We did everything short of sex…that much I was able to exercise restraint on. I had two chances and didn’t, either time. However, now she feels horribly guilty about her marriage. Seeing me makes it worse, because all she feels with me is happy, which ironically makes her more miserable when I’m gone, which makes her even more miserable because she’s locked into her situation. I told her I could wait if necessary. But she said something not too long ago…a “Merry Christmas” if you will. She no longer wishes to have continued contact with me. There are still some moments we will have to contact each other for the next couple of weeks, but after that it will be over. No contact because there will be no future reason to be in touch. I understand her, but I did this precisely because I didn’t want to lose her as a friend.
I know that in time I’ll be fine. I know I should be moving on to another woman and leave her be. I know our situation is impossible as lovers (and I stated that at the start). But I really don’t want to lose her as a friend, which is what I was trying to be with her from the start. Of course I’d like to think that someday in the future we’d have a possibility, when her kids are grown, but even if that possibility doesn’t exist as lovers, I still want to be friends with her! For very real reasons I’m shortly going to lose any chance at all of salvaging anything from this! I take responsibility for her falling in love with me! I didn’t mean for things to happen like this though! I didn’t mean for it to end up like this.
I only have a couple of weeks where I can contact her…We’ve been in contact everyday since November 4th until recently. Today is the third day in a row I haven’t spoken to her (she was the last one to say anything to me and she sent it with an emoticon smiley and a hug…but keep in mind she’s also said she has no interest in continued contact after our “business/working arrangement” is over). Neither of us have said anything. I’m supposed to go there tomorrow and whether or not I see her, she will have to contact me at some point in order to pay. Our arrangement will be ending mid to late January (between 15-23 I’m guessing…we haven’t spoken about those details just yet, so I don’t know the precise date).
What can I do to save this?!? I don’t want it to be forever done! She’s truly happy with me and it hurts her to leave as much as it does for me to say goodbye! I honestly just wanted to be friends, but this is too much. Can I fix this? Please…any advice is appreciated, and I will do my best to follow up on it.

Thanks in advance!

Derek, got confused between IRAE model and the 10 steps in Seduction on Steroids (SOS).

In SOS’s Attraction Roadmap, you mentioned that Attraction (Step #4) should be done before Comfort/Connection (#6).

But isn’t this contrary to IRAE model as we need to build Rapport first before Attraction?

Please clarify. 🙂

(P.S. Have asked you a Q in AlphaMaleActivator page too, please have a look, thanks!)

Hi Derek,

Greetings!

I have already read your Shogun Method and Dark Rake Method, along with MKDelta and DRInsider. Because of these, I was introduced to a whole new world of understanding on how the female mind works and its flaws and manipulation of it.

I have this girl on whom I plan to use the things that I’ve learned. To give you a background, I have no girlfriend since birth, its because I’ve focused on my studies well, I’ve graduated 2nd Honor on High School, became a commander on our Citizen’s Army Training , and became a varsity player, then on College, I’ve graduated as a Dean’s Lister. became a Licensed Mechanical Engineer, and also became a representative of National Team for Football. But still, through this all, I would say that I am not good on girls. But I can say that I am one of the lookers. There are girls whom they showed their affection and motives on me, and this girls are the one we consider that she is the most pretty on her batch. Many times I’ve encountered this . There is one time when I was on High School that these very pretty girl, whom I have also a crush with surprised me when she always smiles at me and waves her hand whenever I saw her. But then I would freeze up. That is how awful I was then. Then she still continued to do this may times more , then finally one day, she and her best friend pass us and my friends an her friend tease us, but I just went froze up again. Then she went to the CR , tugging her best friend and I’ve heard her exclaim ” He is very slow! Why is he like that! etc….” But still, I don’ t know what to do.

Moving forward, I’ve already got a work on a big company. Then the janitress asked me, “Sir, do you have a girlfriend already?” I’ve said “No , I don’t have. Why?” She said, “Really?! That’s impossible with that looks, you really don’t have? It is because there are women from 5th Floor and 6th Floor who asks me If do you have a girlfriend already.” Then another time, my girl officemate gave me names and number of her friends to me so I can connect with them, so I can have a girlfriend already. Then I searched them on Facebook first, even though their pretty, I still don’t like them.

Then finally, one time when I was roving the area, I saw this girl, we’ve looked straight on our eyes , then I felt that I want this girl. Then there are other instances that wherever I go , I would see her again, unexpectedly. Then one time, when I went to the McDonald’s, that was evening, I unexpectedly saw her again. She is always on my mind always. During this time, I’ve already started reading the Shogun Method and the MKDelta. Then I’ve tried to show her myself as an Alphamale. Wherever I go, I always bring my people , they are old already, as twice my age. Then they will address me “Sir” when they talk to me , which is natural though. Then I always bring a hand-held radio. One time I saw her with her officemate waiting on the elevator ,then I tried to show I am an Alphamale, I ‘ve called on the handheld radio with a voice of authority, then the security guards backed-up my command then they followed up immediately to address my concern. She witnessed all this. Then one of my people said, ” Sir let’s use the elevator” as he is my accomplice and noticing the girl I like. Then when the girls are already on the elevator, we also hopped inside. Then I’ve noticed that they stopped talking and looking on the eye with each other like they are communicating something. Noticing that I was blocking the door, I stepped aside a little bit so that they can pass when they reach their floor destination, then I hang my hand held radio on my back pocket. I ‘ve noticed that she was amazed by that . Then as the elevator door opens when we reached their floor destination, I gently guided the door, activating the sensor making sure that they can safely pass, making my impression to her: Even though I have the authority , I ‘m always a gentleman to women.

Then after that, I always unexpectedly see her again, with me roving the area with my people. Then I’ve started noticing that whenever she sees me, she looks at me with i think an amazement. These are because I’ve read your MKDelta.

I am now planning to apply the Shogun Method. My plan are as follows:

Plan A:
While the girl I like is on the 6th Floor, because they regularly went up there on the afternoon, to arrange the letter deliveries I will approach her and say this:
Me: “Hi! I don’t know if I should ask this or not.” —–Intrigue Ping
Her: What is that?
Me: Since you really want to know , what’s you name? —–Role Reversal
Her: Pat
Me: Pat Javier —-A sexy actress
or I should call you Pat Park, as this is a popular surname for Korean Actresses —- she really likes Korean Dramas
Her: Haha!
Me: Congratulations, Pat. You’ve passed my test, as reward you may now shake my hand.
Me. Pat, meet my bestfriend and eternal soulmate, myself. Pat meet Stephen. Stephen meet Pat.
Her: *shakes my hands smiling
Me: So from what department are you?
Fractionation
Her: Accounting
Me: So I assume your an accountant.
Her: I am still not yet. I am an intern. etc……
Me: So how was it, do you enjoy?
Her: Etc…
Me: What is the challenging part?
Her: Etc….
Me: What is you dream job?
Her: Etc…
Me: So if you became a Licensed Acountant, you will help on my “debit, credit” of my future investments. ——Anchoring
Her: Haha! Etc….
Me: Iv’e been noticing this all this time when I see you.
Her: What?
Me: Could you remove eyeglasses for a moment?
Her: Why? *then she removes her glasses.
Me: Did any guy told you already that you’ve got an interesting pair of eyes? They seems to tell me that there’s more to this woman than you would see on first sight. —— Intrigue Skin Deep
Her: *Blushes. Etc..
Me: I should go back to my office now. Our afternoon break is over. ——Time Constraint Value Elicitation
———–But this plan is not going to work. because the 6th Floor is where the majority of the Boss of the company has their offices and the area where thy arrange the letter deliveries are near the Lobby, and Security Guard Area when we are caught, It sounds bad.—–
———–Also, many personnel will witness this, and my approach is somewhat very exposed. It violates the Precondition #2: You must conceal your intentions until the manipulation is complete.————-

Plan B:
I would command our Telephone Technician to temporarily deactivate the Office Local Phone of the girl I want. (This Telephone Technician is my accomplice).
The code that I would say to the Telephone Technician is “Initiate: Operation Chromite”
Me: Initiate: Operation Chromite
Telephone Technician: Copy that, Sir.
Her: *she would report it then, and then our Telephone Technician will go to her area and repair it (although we have just deactivated it)
After that, our technician will let her sign the Job Order and the technician will submit it to me.
Me: *I wil call her on her office local
: Hello, may I speak with Ms. Pat?
Her : Yes, this is Pat Speaking. How may I help you.
Me: This is Eng’r Stephen form the Service and Maintenance Center, I would like to check. Our technician reported that your local phone got a problem?
Her : Yes , i was not able to use my [hone a while ago. But now it is fixed already.
Me: That’s good to know,. We aoologize that what you are currently doing were delayed because of that.
Her: It’s alright. Etc….
Me: I don’t think I should say this.. ———-Intrigue Ping
Her: What is it?
Me: Did anyone told you that you’ve got a sweet voice. It makes me think that it is fun to be with you. ————–Intrigue
Her: Haha! Etc…..
Me: We are takilng long already. Thank you for your time. Goodbye! ——Time Constraint Value Elicitation
Her: Thank you too. Good bye!
*Then the following afternoon or day, when we see her again on the 6th Floor
Telephone Technician: Hi Ma’am, how was your phone , is it functioning well?
Her: Yes. Thank you. Your service was great.
Telephone Technician: By the way Ma’am, this is Eng’r Stephen our Service and Maintenance Supervisor.
Me: Hi! So your Pat, the one with sweet voice.
Her: Haha! Etc….
Me: Iv’e been noticing this all this time when I see you.
Her: What?
Me: Could you remove eyeglasses for a moment?
Her: Why? *then she removes her glasses.
Me: Did any guy told you already that you’ve got an interesting pair of eyes? They seems to tell me that there’s more to this woman than you would see on first sight. —- Intrigue Skin Deep
Her: *Blushes. Etc..
Me: I should go back to my office now. Our afternoon break is over. ——Time Constraint Value Elicitation

Plan C:
I would call her on her break time, between 11:30 am to 12:30pm. I would sacrifice to eat after 12:30 just to talk to her, even our break time is 12NN to 01:00PM
She will also be amazed on how I was able to call her on her office local, even we don’t know the name of each other.
Me: May I SPeak witj Ms. Pat.
Her: Yes, this is Pat. Who’s this?
Me: This is Eng’r Stephen, from Service and Maintenance Center.
Her: Yes, how may I help you?
Me: You are the one on the 6th Floor that arranges letter deliveries right? I’ve been seeing you unexpectedly anywhere I go.
Her: What then?
Me: I’ve made a way just to talk to you. It seems that there is something interesting going on.
Her: What is that?
Me: I believe in a guardian angel, you know, a higher power which looks after your well being and makes sure you’ll only meet with good people that will love and take care of you.
After all , you are destined to meet someone who treasure you for who you are and what you do.
Things happen for a reason. Out of the billions of people, we have found each other, and this will work out to something great for both of us.
You can feel the vibe coming from you meet, and I can sense the strong and fun energy coming from you . I can feel that you are a social person who is comfortable interacting with people
you meet everywhere, and you can connect with people on a deep level beyond the casual hello. ————————–Intrigue Higher Powers

These are my plans for the Intrigue Phase. I do really appreciate your comments, suggestions and corrections and what plan should I do, edit or mix, or another plan, etc.

I will execute an action once I receive from you.

Hopefully I can hear from you the soonest.

Shogun Method Initiate “Commander Stephen”

Hello, Derek, i was wondering if its possible to use the IRAE model online. as I’m in a long-distance relationship with my girlfriend in China and if so is there anything I should do to make it work online? or just leave it as it is. although some of the stuff it says to do kinda makes it difficult to do online. oh and another thing it’s that when I was on Rapport my girlfriend she had fallen in love with me deeply for about 3 weeks or less. so, I stopped but about 5 days ago my girlfriend broke up with me so abruptly saying how the relationship between China and America was not so good and our culture difference thing was so off. I didn’t believe any of it it just sounded like an excuse to break up with or maybe her male friends convinced her to break up with. did I forget to mention that she has male friends! I felt like I had her, but then there was just too much interference from her friends and others and deep down I know she still loves me but was just listening to the wrong people in which I got screwed. so, I really wanna know the IRAE model would still work online. because I wanna use the Enslavement module on her to make sure something like this doesn’t happen again.

Hey Derek,

So how should I practice the Shogun Method on my own time prior to trying it in the field? I’m specifically looking for a way to practice this in a way that I can get good at it as quickly as potentially possible so I know what to say and do when I try it on women I meet.

Thank you,
– Chip

Derek , I have no doubts about the authenticity shogun method . It works on every woman as long as human nature is not altered . As you had already been saying its like bringing a nuclear weapon to a gunfight . Another line which I recall is the magician as the seducer who is simply able to perform great tricks over simple mundane principles . I want to know whether this method is still going to work on a woman especially the ones who already knows the shogun method and is well aware of guys out there who are trying to manipulate women through the shogun method ?

Hi Derek,

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Hi Derek Rake,

I just had a glance at the shogun method, viewing some of the exercises, videos and documents attached. I have never seen anything like these ideas before, and they somehow feel instinctive even if there are some controversy issues.

I’m completely new to this method, and am still trying to learn and understand it slowly. I just have some questions to ask: how can one tell if one is successful in doing the “intrigue” part to proceed to “rapport”? Can these stages overlap with each other, such as first three used at the same time but in order, when seducing a woman? What would your advice be towards beginning to apply and practice the shogun method in everyday life?

Which is better to have the girl develop sexual feelings for you in the rapport state.Is it the Conversational Seduction or is it the Dark Rapport?

What’s the difference between rollercoastering and fractionation?

Derek, i would like to share with you my thoughts and deeper reflections on the core principles of the shogun method.

For my reflection I will be using Freud’s model of the human consciousness (ID, Ego, Super ego).

Since the dawn of mankind, women have been lesser (physically speaking) then the male homo sapians. Therefore, the woman depended on the man to supply her food and production in exchange for giving the male offspring. So from the very beginning of things (from my perspective) the woman has always been co-dependent on another, often times having to alter her own social behaviors for her very survival. This only cultivated further as civilization was founded, and social patterns became ever more necessary for survival.

Constantly worrying about ones social appearance, just for the sake of perceived (most likely unconscious) “survival”, leaves one in a constant state of anxiety. This state of consciousness is known as the Super-Ego, the part of awareness that perceives outside threats to one’s survival. I believe women marginally tend to fall much more into the Super-Ego artificially, and they adjust their lifestyles accordingly. Personally speaking, i see much more men dressed differently from each other then woman-to-woman, again due to the need for social conformity, evolutionary programmed into women.

However when a woman feels truly safe and secure with a man, almost as if he is her father, she feels free to explore her ID (subconscious desires). This sends her into a child-like state where she can explore the euphoria and delusions associated with uncontrolled narcissism. However, she doesn’t even need to scheme or employ machiavellian tactics, as she is under constant protection by a perceived powerful “parent”. Cults also tend to employ this strategy, with the leader often becoming an all-knowing and benevolent parent, empowering the followers or “children” to act on their whims, with no fear of survival.

I can now see how shogun methods already begin to exploit this flaw. For instance, the Jeckll and Hyde sequence points out the woman her perpetual state of Super-Ego, and begins to pull her towards her freer ID side.

No wonder women in power are always the most miserable 🙂

Excited to hear you comments Derek, really great program you have here.

I now know why this is called the shogun method, fight to win!

So basically, you’re trying to tell me is that if I go out right now to a teen, that this Shogun method won’t work on a her?

hi derek . i have this question that keep pooping in my head . after learning shogun method . should i talk naturaly and from time to time use techniques like fractionation . like in the intrigue stage . obvioulsy when i meet a new girl should i deliver the shogun sequences right after meeting her or i would be creepy in her eyes . also for my second question should i master intrique before meting new girls cause i still can’t get my own intrique story :/

Derek can you say a couple of words about the Natural program i guess you have heard about it

another update…

Atlanta went so well with the first date that I set aside the other 6 opportunities and went out with her all 4 nights. She’s 5’1″ Belaussian living here in the US for 15 yrs and looks and sounds like a Bond girl with a ballerina body. At the end of date 2 I asked if we could continue our conversation the following evening and go again… she says “I think we have run out of things to talk about” Now I’ve been fractionating all evening and running all the usual sequences etc so I’m thinking “WTF?” Then she smiled and deadpanned in her thick accent “I am fucking with you.”
I decided then I would take the following 2 evenings to try and escalate there and to see if I could get her to come to FL. The following evening through implanted commands I was able to get her to ‘make me’ take her number for texting and she invited herself to my house for labor day weekend! I didn’t feel any pressure to ‘hard close’ after that so we escalated to some nice kissing at the week’s conclusion. She’s driving 6 hours here to FL to spend the Labor Day weekend with me kayaking, golfing, scalloping, hiking and beaching. I am considering this as an audition for possible enslavement and will let you know.

Meanwhile, another discovery I have made is that the Jeckly/Hyde sequence resonates with all women but some more strongly than others. There is a particular personality type that I am now always on the lookout for ISFP types, AKA the Adventurer. This excerpt comes from the full description found at https://www.16personalities.com/isfp-relationships-dating

“If they do feel appreciated, ISFPs are more than happy to reciprocate in any way they know how. People with the ISFP personality type are very sensual, and in no aspect of their lives is this clearer than in their sex lives. Intimacy is an opportunity for ISFPs to satisfy their partners, and they involve every sense available in enjoying these moments. ISFPs may be shy in public, but alone with a partner they trust, the masks come off – few people get to see this side, and it’s always a pleasant surprise.”

Anyway, I have found 3 of these so far and all super responsive in real time to jeckly and hyde. 2 had sex very quickly and I’ll let you know about the 3rd next week when I meet her.

ALSO…

Marketing stats are now in and the funnel looks like this.

360 outbound contacts last 30 days
55 respond and begin conversation
21 agree to meet
8 actually meet (7 scheduled in future)
6 Kissed
3 sex (all more than once)

Very pleased with those metrics as I can manage to send out 10 new outbounds per day and keep a very healthy pipeline for as long as I want to keep it going. I will let you know if any further improvements can be realized.

Thanks again for all your help with getting this process organized!!!

Derek:

I am facing a huge problem currently and I’ll admit it has very little to do with seduction, but if you are still willing to help I’ll be very grateful

ok to give you a little background I would like to attended law school in a few years, and order to practice I have enrolled myself in a college course for debating. But the problem is I’m not that good at arguing a point, so this whole week has consisted of me getting my ass kicked by people who have obviously had a bunch of time debating on court cases, politics, etc.

1. I tried to use implanted commands to persuade the class, and the opposing side but nothing worked. I realised that I have no rapport with those people so I was wondering is there any type of sequence or technique I could use to build rapport with a class to full of people or am I pretty much screwed .

2. The case we are working on is brown vs board of education. IDK if you are familiar with the case, but I was put on a side I complety disagree with being on, and to put the cherry on top it’s the losing side. I’ve learned from the shogun Method that it’s better to talk to the subconscious mind to get what you want, but I’ve only tried this with women out on the field. So the problem is how do I talk to a whole class of people and get them to subconsciously follow my command.

3. Now as far as the techniques I’ve tried I’ve only use implanted commands. I actually though about using fractionation but like I said I don’t how to build a connection with all those people at one time, and just pulling a fractionation story out of thin air would creep people out instead of helping me. on top of that how can I make a fractionation story defending someone ? Idk if I can be done but if it could I know it would be enough to put me at a great advantage. Also would roller coastering be good in a situation like this if so how could I do roller coastering on multiple people?

4. I’ve noticed you’ve put out a bunch of products after the shogun Method and I know they are for seducing girls but if any of them could help me with persuading people in groups please let me know. Or do you know any books I could buy on manipulation or persuassion? I’m on a very strict budget and have had a few financial issues over the past year which why I had to return some of the products I brought from you I’m telling you this because I only want to invest money into one of your programs that could help me with this situation or a book that you reccomend… but I do plan on purchasing and repurchasing all of your products once I get a steady source of income

Derek is it possible a wonan that lives with two guys to desire both of them while banging one of them.I fractionatef a bit but after i found out that she and my roomate had history i decided to step back and become more distant but since then she started qualifying her to me and flirt from time to time

Derek when i was in high school i had no problem with girls. I was top prospect in muai thai and several other martial arts i was illegally driving crf 450 supermotard t the age of 15 plus i was a 9 but then i had an accident with the bike which tottaly fucked my figting career and then i got involded into the criminal life i was gathering loans beating peoplle and at some point i was addicted to coke and now i am 25 years old guy that looks like 35 and i have bad teeth.I live in uk now and i have success using shogun method but since i am a nationalist and i love the place i was born i want eventually to relocate back to my hometown which by the way is small one and everybody knows me most of the decent girls despise me except some adventurous sluts. So my qestion is will i find success using shogun method once i get back in my hometown? Believe me the situation there is very tight.For some people there i am the best guy they have ever met and to some i am the devil and most of the people are religious or at least pretend to be.Its not muslim country btw.Its GREECE

Derek: I used the Shogun Sequences based on the situation as shown in the handbook but I haven’t seen reaction or positive feedback(Pls, note that i studied Micro expression), so I think the problem is my delivery of the sequences. Therefore,

Would you inform me what is the concept ,e.g; is it evoking cold & hot emotion in the subject ?! or what exactly?!

Your question : Have you finished using everything?

Yes! (shogun method)

Thanks for the suggestions Derek..
But i decided to let her go.. right now i am working on my research work its basicaly on building equilibrium in our through natural forces and desieses like cancer will be wiped out in few decades… u have provided me with such a information about womens and for return you will be the first person to kknow the secrets for health ..i am from india and professionaly i am ayurveda doctor(ancient system of indian medicine)…i want you to live longer to and spread this mindcontrol tacticts to mens in need..its my way to thank you derek… i am searching for a perfect girl who connects with me in deeper level and then ill use your knowledge and enslave her..
Regards
Nishanth

Sir,
I have successfully made to fall her in my love. I want to marry her but my family and her family is against our marriage, please suggest me how to convince both the families. I really love her.
Thank you

1. Derek, I am trying to use Sock Puppet on the Shogun Sequence Handbook, is it possible to use through whatsapp, I just think of possibility that she won’t believe me as a friend If I used it on whatsapp or such texting apps.

2. I heard Red Tulip Sequence was only available for the one who bought Shogun Sequence Handbook as soon as it was released, but is there any possibility for the sequence to be released in future to be purchased ?

Wassup Derek I have two small problems that I hope you can shed some light on.

Ok so I’ve been doing crazy amounts of day game for the last couple of days. I’ve been hitting up malls, supermarkets, bookstores and coffee shops. The only thing is it can get pretty boring going to the same places. Just because it’s not always guaranteed that good looking chicks will be there. But anyways when I’m on the bus heading towards the mall I pass a college campus, and there’s Always good looking chicks getting on the bus from there. It’s kinda natural for me to start a conversation on the bus because I feel as though there is some context. So my question could I day game at a college campus? I don’t know why but It kinda seems weird walking around a college trying to pick up chicks. Also I feel like they would want to know why I’m there because I’m not even in college yet so they definitely won’t recognize me. So do you think it’s a good Idea gaming at a college or should I just avoid it?

Alright so this isn’t really about me, it’s for my older brother. He’s 35 makes good money and he’s definitely the good looking sibling lol. BUT he sucks ass when it comes to women I noticed it last week when I invited some girls I met at McDonald’s to a movie and eventually dinner afterwards one of them flaked when they found out I wasn’t paying so I invited my brother to kinda fill in the gap but the ratio was still 4:2 but anyways during the movie it wasn’t to much conversation just a couple of jokes so it was kinda hard for me to recognize his skill level during that time so after the movie is over my brother took me to the bathroom and told me the girl he wanted to target and also told me how beautiful she was and how great her smile is a red flag should have went off but I thought nothing of it fastfoward to the dinner we are all at a table and I’m basically doing all of the work sub plots, intrigue pings , conversational hooks, entice &repel the whole nine yards my brother was kinda being forgotten so I started to tell cool stories about him to get some of the focus off me and he starts bragging about his job his money he just makes himself look like an insecure prick anyway as the dinner goes on he starts to compliment his target he made some creepy sexual jokes and he even offered to buy her more food after she politely declined after a while she basically turns to her friends to save her they come up with some lame ass excuse to leave an uber is called and they left while they are in the car they sent me a message saying “can we do this again sometime but without the other dude he’s a creep”. I didn’t show him the message though anyway we were in his car and ofc I’m mad but I didn’t yell at him I just said dude you gotta get some dating advice I did and it has helped me and he gets mad saying I’m not going to take advice from someone half my age I ignored him and took his phone while he was driving and signed him up on your email list later that night he calls me angrily yelling at me saying he does not need my help. So Derek this is obviously an ego thing with him, how can I bring it down so he can get the help he needs? I don’t want to him to screw me up again because of his blue-pill dating skills.

P.S. I didn’t violate a precondition I just signed him up for your email, but he unsubscribed. The shogun method or any of it’s techniques were never mentioned.

Dear derek,
assuming the plan worked well and later the relationship was broken. It was broken in a dramatic way where i have shown how much I am in love and she said she is not ready for it for now maybe later. I took a break of 45 days of no contact no cal. What would you advise to do to gain her agian

Hey Derek, or anyone else for that matter, I need help.

I broke up with my ex girlfriend about 8 months ago when the relationship was about to go long distance. Since then I’ve realized that that was a huge mistake and I want to try and win her back.

The current situation is as follows. I started running the IRAE Model on her a few days ago, right now we’re in Rapport. She has a boyfriend who she seems attached to. I live in Canada and she lives in Europe, therefore all communication is over text at the moment. She is visiting Canada alone late April for a bit, I assume this is the ideal time to move to the Attraction phase and implement Boyfriend Destroyers.

My questions for you are as follows. When/how can I transition to the Attraction phase without triggering her defenses? When/how should I implement Boyfriend Destroyers in this situation?

Thank you for taking the time to read and answer my questions. Obviously Derek is a very busy guy so if there’s anyone else here who would be willing to provide advise or ongoing support for my situation, please send me an email at jboileau55@gmail.com

In the beginning of the program you mentioned of the damsel show and told us how the damsel went on to choose the Australian clerk who was just taking part in the show as a passtime during his globetrotting over the Harvard based elite degree holder to marry inspite of the fact what the damsel told in the beginning of the show, that she is tired with men who have no purpose/ambition in life and wants to get a guy who is really serious about his ambitions in life.
Can you please explain to me why did the damsel actually did so or what led her to make the final choice which she actually did.

Hi Derek

I need a litle help from you.
So im intrested in this one girl have known for one and a half jears now.
I landed in the frienzone of course.
Since then i had up and downs with her.
a few days ago i watched a movie with her and a other friend of mine that sche also knows a long time. So i noticed how she always went close to me and rested on my lap and shoulders leaving a big gap wetween her and my other friend but thats literly every time she always wants to stay close to me but i don’t know how i should move on from that point. But last knigt I and a few friends of mine including her went out on a party. Where she met this guy again that is pretty intrested in her, i saw them make out on every party they have met the last few times but he is a complete douchebag. She never wants to talk personal stuff with him and that pisses him of that he becomes a litle rude some times. They have met sober bevor to go and get ice creame, but she still didn’t want to talk to him about personal stuff. So he sent her a massage saying whats wrong with you you only wanted free ice creame and dumm sh*t like that. So she was prety mad at him and she wanted nothing to do with him again, exept last knight they made out again. But i don’t worry about him to much becouse he is going to ruin every thing again.
But i want to know if you have any tips for me how i can get her when i have known her for so long,

Okderek I need some help here . I got your system but I’m not sure this will work quite the y way I need it with out some extras. I got divorced and really wasnt looking for that outcome . She left fore the other guy who was married with kids story.. she moved to another town that’s not to far away and my only contact is trough texting on FB. And the very occasionall phone call. And number into while she’s working.Ihave a small window to get this right. And get her back but willing to play the long game to enslavement. She’s been kinda upset with me because her boyfriend is intimated by me and so she’s protective of him . Also in the divorce she lost it all. And I already owned everything else before we got married so what other program our what module should I start in to begin this process.and after enslavement what maintenance must you do to keep what you’ve earned. Some thing I know about her is she has a low self esteem very low and she always wants somebody to take control of her life. So I see the open door but can’t just come barging through it so your help would be appreciated.

Hi Derek, I’ve been working together with my attached manager for about 1.5 years now, and we have fairly close and regular interaction on work matters both via face to face and via Whatsapp. We also chat about personal sutff (such as family or hobbies) occasionally during work time.

I got 2 questions to seek your advise on:

1) I’m wondering how do I start the Intrigue stage considering my situation?

2) Beside face-to-face ‘action’, is Texting on Steriods a necessary add on for my circumstances?

Thanks in advance.

(Sorry if it’s a double post. I tried posting it before but it didn’t show up.)

Derek, friendzone is fine, but what about the unfriend zone?

I have a feeling I messed up badly. Have I fucked it up?

“Don’t worry. I’ve forgiven you.” She’s just left my room with these words and a smile on her face.

Nine months ago I began to chat the new intern up. She is a hottie. We had a real good rapport from day one and we went out on a date. I kissed her and she asked me what my intentions were. I told her I was a serious guy who wanted a committed relationship (FUCK! ME!)

Summing up, she played me for 6 goddamned months: made me buy handcuffs because she was into kinky stuff, but we never used them, then she told to buy more toys (I didn’t). We only had sex once (and she was mostly indifferent).

All the while she told of all the kinky sex adventures she’d have with other guys and that she’d have with me as well. She’d constantly sext me at work as to how she fantacized about fucking me at work, but she’d never have any time.

The only moments she showed any kind of real interest was when I insisted on leaving. First time was when I said I’d leave her because I was interested in another girl and when I told her I’d be gone forever because she was too much of a slut for my taste.

In both cases she told soul-crushing stories about daddy issues and physical abuse and got me back.

But I was losing it, Derek. It got terrible in August when she said she’d found the right guy for her (rich), but that she also liked me and told me I was #2 in her heart because I made her feel safe and if he screwed up, I’d be next. I told her I needed some sort of sexual gratification to keep going or no deal. She blew me for a two minutes (she was on her period) and then stopped. I got really mad and raged at her, she accused me of being like her father and awful. Said there’d be more sex in the future if only I waited for it.

I apologized. I felt awful.

I began to lose it, Derek. I’m a calm and collected man. My mother has a heart condition and I was the one who took care of her when I was but 10 years old. But I began to have rage attacks. I mostly imploded, but sometimes I’d send her very mean messages (which I’d apologize for later). I started to smoke, drank little a Russian, I even began to use heavy drugs.

The turning point was when I was having an implosion and another co-worker noticed. She asked me if I was OK and I left to avoid bursting on her. My job is sacred. Enough was enough.

I simply started to ignore the girl and got much better. One week later I was feeling great, two weeks and I quit smoking. I’d given up on having her and was happy for it. I was allowing myself to let her go and got better.

Then she started to chase me: “I can’t take my eyes out of you”, etcetera.

One day she texted me: “It’s about time we met.” (She was the one who set the dates) And she sent a picture she took on our last date (I’d given her a wristband matching mine and we took a picture together). “From our last date.”

I was scared that I would relapse and feel awful again. I didn’t really want to meet her, but I thought maybe we could still be fuck buddies.

But there was one thing that kept bugging me: after our last argument, she said no woman would ever want me (that was one of the things that tipped me over the edge). I told that if she wanted to meet me, she’d have to apologize for that. She laughed and texted that she wouldn’t, and that I should not worry because she knew how to handle me.

I was filled with rage. I literally googled “how to beat a woman”, trying to find the proper way to hit her without leaving a mark (she’d also constantly tell me how she liked being spanked and hurt badly, so I knew she could take it). It was then that I found your website and the article “How to beat a woman’s mind games”.

I later calmed down and realized that physical violence was an awful idea all together (even though she’d taunt me to it). I began reading your material. I read about Fractionation and that you shouldn’t be afraid of losing a woman. I was hellbent on stopping getting played. She’d either fuck me or fuck off.

She basically re-scheduled twice because she was busy. I was quite ‘meh’ about it, When she finally decided to show up for lunch, I met her 40 minutes late. Didn’t even apologize. Couldn’t give a fuck. I tried to fractionate her on our way to my place, but she was quite evasive. When we got home and I made the move, she backed off. I told her she could leave. “You said it’s just sex. If we don’t fuck, we don’t have anything.”

She started to cry and said that that was why she didn’t want to have sex: because sex was important for me. I’d later feel deep rage about it (bitch had been sexting me straight for SIX FUCKING MONTHS!”). She said she changed and that she hadn’t had any sex for three weeks because she wanted to be a different person because I’d called her a whore for fucking around.

I tole her she could leave and she asked me to wait until she got ready. She was dressing up and putting her make-up right in front of me to go to her boyfriend’s. While she dressed up I decided to go all out and fractionate with all I had. I’d go back and forth between our good moments and her lies. It was easy to be very expressive because I was tipsy from two glasses of wine.

Half way through she just turns around and asks me if I wanted to masturbate her. I refused. It was too humiliating and I was hellbent: my way or the highway. I continued to talk. At one point I showed her a necklace I’d bought for her and she wanted to try. Told her I wanted to fuck her with it. She said no and I told her to take it off, then.

Derek, she bawled her eyes out and BEGGED to let her have it. She’d meet me anywhere I wanted, would do whatever I wanted, if I wanted to hug her and hold hands, she’d let me, she’d let me kiss once in a while, so I shouldn’t kick her out. Told her to get on bed. She became silent. Told her to take it off. She begged me not to, so I roared at her to fucking remove it. I’d been lied for far too long. I don’t make a lot of money and wouldn’t be leeched as well. She told me she felt unsafe and took it off.

At that point I realized I was reaching breaking point for me, I’d say I was sorry and go back to being pussywhipped. So I went outside to wait until she was ready to leave. Took her to the gate and slammed it shut after her.

I felt a wave of happiness for getting back at her at the moment and went partying at night all night long.

But on the next two days I felt remorse: she hadn’t fucked Mr. Right for three weeks, I hadn’t talked to her for four. What if she was changing because of me? Three days later I was apologizing, but to no avail. She said she never felt so unsafe and humiliated than when she was with me, that she felt helpless with a raging drunk. I begged her to accept me back and pointed that she was changing because of me because I was her true love. She didn’t answer and I backpedalled more and more.

Later, at home, I realized she was playing me some more and told her to fuck off.

Three weeks later I decided to start testing her and see what results I could get. I texted her I wouldn’t be ‘just friends’ with her because she was an awful fucking liar who’d ommitted on the very first date that had been having sex with at least six other guys (and a few girls), that she played my emotions and was an untrusty cunt. That she was a prostitute who was with the guy only for the money.

She lashed out back. Said she felt so much disgust for me that she’d thrown up thinking about what we did. It was nasty. Summing up, It ended like this:
Me: You’re unworthy of the cock you blew.
Her: If I was, I’d be blowing it to this day.
Me: You dumb bitch, read it again.
Her: sent a video next to Mr. Right.

I was enthralled. It was the most I’d ever gotten from her. She’d almost never show me I picture of him nor would she show me a picture of herself. I got both AND a video. She’d NEVER sent me a video. I realized being a dick got me more than being nice.

For the next few days I’d catch her checking me out and would quickly look away when she noticed I saw her, but after a week or so she stopped and went cold.

Then last week she went friendly, incidentally it was last week I finally saved money enough to buy the Shogun Method.

I texted on the Sunday and said I needed to talk to her. That it was important. Coincidentally, I had some work related stuff to deal with her. So we began discussing work and I became personal talking about an old friend who’d died last week. She seemed really docile and enthralled by what I was saying and showed a lot of care. I ran two fractations sequences successfully and ended with a cliffhanger, saying that we shouldn’t be discussing this at work.

That was on Monday. Today, Wednesday I texted her expressing my gratitude for listening to me. She said she was happy to help and that she was sad I didn’t tell the rest of the story.
I said I had a question, but I didn’t know if I should ask.

She said it was up to me.
I said I hated how she was nice to me. It made it hard to hate her.
She said I shouldn’t hold a grudge and that we could have a good relation if I wanted to.
I said OK (I regret this decision).
Then I asked if she was really angry before (the idea was to run an Echo from Texting on steroids).
She didn’t answer and I started to panic.

Her shift starts at 2pm. I’d text her at 11am. She didn’t answer and I thought she had figured my interest out and lost interest. So, in panic, I decided to talk to her. Huge mistake.

You see, I’d practiced for Monday all weekend long and I was prepared. This time I hadn’t had a good night of sleep and hadn’t planned ahead. So I fucked up. I quickly wrote a summary of what to say and called her. But I was sleepy and unfocused. I also had the script in front of me and couldn’t help but checking it. I think she noticed I was reading something on the screen. My rapport was bad and I tried the hidden commands, but it sounded kinda creepy.

I tried to ask her out to just to talk, but she said I’d misundertood: we could have a “good” professional relationship. If I really needed to talk to her about my dead friend and the problems I’m facing (I briefly told her about famiily issues – sister getting beaten by brother-in-law and family moving and leaving me alone), I could do it on the phone. I asked if we could be friends (I knew it was a bad idea the moment the words came out). She said no, that she had offered the chance but I blew it.

I looked away, trying to think of a way to salvage the situation, but to no avail. All I could say was:
“I was a real scumbag, wasn’t I?”
She didn’t answer.
“You can go.”
She got up, smiled and said: “Don’t worry. I’ve forgiven you.”

I know I fucked up.
I just checked my phone and she had sent a message right when she got at work, but I hadn’t noticed. She was asking if “Were you really mad at me” was an affirmation or a question (I left it ambiguous on purpose).

I’ll be on vacations in two weeks and we won’t be seeing each other until March. In the mean time I will practice the Method on different gals. I know I won’t make any more progress this year, but should I just cold turkey her or should I at least finish the current conversation threads (about my friend’s death, family issues and if she was angry).

I won’t give up on her, Derek. I want to have her, not only because she is hot, but because I really like her. I love it when she is sweet (which was rare), I need to have her being caring all the time and make her love me. What do?

Hi derek,
I am coming from Germany and my englisch is not perfekt so sorry if i do now some misstakes by this Message. If i use SEQUENCES i need to transleyt them to german. Is the effect the same?

I now believe what you’ve been saying all these time “just follow the method, you don’t need to know how the method works… It just works.” I use this to get laid..Derek, I have this problem… When I’m performing foreplay with a girl, the moment I try to put a condom on my erection goes away and I feel premature ejaculation on the way.. But when I sleep with hoes, my sex is like a porn star’s… His could I change that? What an I doing wrong? Your method has helped get classy women but my sex I wonder what’s happening… Help will be appreciated

Derek

Maybe I’m missing something here or maybe I’m not. So after you put the black rose (or the alternate you have in your other product) on a girl, how do you treat her? Like you’ve obviously led her to the deepest commitment and trance under your control, so what buttons do you press to avoid her being a psycho and what buttons are there to ensure she remains deep under your emotional enslavement? How do you utilize her alter ego? — Yes kind of next level there, but I want to understand this before I decide if enslavement is what I want in a particular relationship.

I should also mention that she has told me that she has had interest in other people but she insist she is not seeing anyone on a romantic level. I feel like this is an important note to make. She says she is unsure of what she wants alot.

Hi, Derek

Any advice for Wheelchair users, Complete or/and Non-Complete (Non-feeling or/and Feeling) for relationship-seeking? I understand it must be a bit challenging.

Hey Derek,
I’ll try & keep this short as possible. I have enjoyed the ‘Shogun Method’ modules Very interesting indeed.
Recently I’ve met a lady friend on a business trip. She was curious of me initially as she believes I ignored her on the 1st two encounters, unbeknownst to me.

Anyway, we planned to meet up the next time I was in town which we did. We had dinner & things escalated into the bedroom where things became intense & intimate without ‘sealing the deal’ which was OK with me as she said, ‘I want to, but can’t’. (This is because she knows I’m attached I believe, which she definitely knew before we had dinner). I accepted that as a definite ‘NO’ & treated her as a gentleman & never pushed it. So, you could say we had a really good night though.

For the next 2 evenings we’d planned dinner etc.. after work & both nights I was stood up with her coming up with last minute engagements?

So, silly me after reading the ‘Shogun Method’ I’ve committed a cardinal sin probably sounding needy. I messaged / emailed basically asking what happened / did you not enjoy the 1st evening etc…

2 Weeks passed & still not 1 sight of communication. Then I land back in town where I executed some workings literally a stone throws away from her desk. She ignored me for 2 days. No explanation, no eye contact & not even a hello. Confused to say the least….

Prior to this last trip, I’ve not contacted her in any shape or form, cut myself off social media all together & stayed quiet the whole time.

I’m prepared to play the long game with this female. She’s actually got me curious & intrigued.

The question is how do I gain the control again? Any words of wisdom?

Derek,
My situation is that I was caught emotionally cheating on my gf of 7 years . We have a child together and she says that she does not trust me anymore. Also she is seeing another man. I love this woman and realize that I fucked up bad. She wants to stay friends and we hangout still. Where would I start with getting her love back and enslaving her to get my life back? I have already purchased The Shogun Method and Resuduction 2.0. Please advise as my life is spiraling out of control.

Derek, I first learned about your work after my first ever breakup with a girl and when I saw your work back in May of 2019, I was skeptical at first, but over time I was completely won over. Over the past 9 months I have been working on the shogun method, and I have seen it in its true effect and it’s very powerful. It has transformed me into a different person, and I’m very grateful. I have been through hell and heaven with your work, but as I continue to grow, Now I’m looking to step out into bigger and better things. I know, intrigue pings, intrigue stories. I know how to build great rapport, using mirroring, conversational hooks, cognitive dissonance, dark rapport, dark rake method, cold reading, and much more for rapport. I know for the attraction stage entice and repel, and fractionation with positive and negative stories and conflict and resolution and plagues. I also know the truth extractor, and how misdirection works. I’m still very much interested in your work, and I would like to help guys to. I’m 19 years of age and I have been wondering recently if you give out job opportunities? Thanks, Josh.

Hello Derek,

I’ve been reading through your re-seduction 2.0 book and I followed through on the first step and initiated the breakup myself. It wasn’t met with much resistance, infact it was agreed upon, we both need space. I’ve resisted the urge to text her back from past experiences.

I understand you can’t just break up and then text them you’re seeing someone else the next day etc.. So how long should I wait before moving onto stage 2 Confirmation? Or what should I do in the meantime? She keeps texting me agreeing that we should both move on with our lives and move forward etc..

So, I bought the Shogun Method, Reseduction 2.0 & Texting On Steroid. Here a little about me, I was left by my ex girlfriend of 6 month relationship (she introduce her parent, she cook for me, she even tell me her stupid secret, she was obedient to me). So basically, she left me because she said she is seeing someone else but not in a relationship with that person (bullsh*t). I realized that I was getting insecure and less dominant throughout the relationship compared to when we first met.

I finish reading the Shogun Method and even tried it on 2 women. So, the Intrigue & Rapport stage are legit. I even go through the attraction stage but stop halfway because its not my goal anyway. What i truly desire is to get my ex back.

My ex girlfriend left me and told me to never contact her again. She even asked me to never come to her places again. She changed her phone number and the only form of communication we had was Facebook messenger.

My questions are:
1. Its been more than a month, will Reseduction works? Are there anyone else who had tried this method?
2. The only form of communication I had with her right now is via Facebook Messengger. Will that affect the Validation process?
3. Do I have to purchase other program(Barnum Manuscript, Black Book Vol1, Boyfriend Destroyer) to make this method work?
4. This is my worst fear. What if she decided to block me during the Confirmation stage OR the 7 day freeze out (before the Restoration stage even begin) ?

Hope you replied. I’ve been wondering about this for a long time. She’s one of a kind.

Hello Derek!

I just finished the Shogun Method modules, and I’ve decided that I will apply what I’ve learned to a girl at work that I like. Problem is, she’s not the type to socialize and isn’t much for conversation. She’s a shy type, so it seems. I can attest to that since I tried to engage in friendly small talk with her a couple of times, and the conversation always seems to fizzle out. I just want to ask, with these types of girls, how can I find things to talk about, since I’m having a problem engaging in conversation with them sometimes? Most of my exes are outgoing women, with a lot of female and male friends, and I guess I’m not really used to dealing with “shy types”, if that really is a proper term to describe her.

Hi Derek i have a kind of different question:
Can you tell me a true story about the greatest shoguns you ever know (maybe you), like what is the impossible thing that he have done that noboby can do (like date 20 girls in 1 night or date women in top 1%)?

Hi Derek!
I wanted to know what your thoughts are on Neuro-Linguistic Programming. During the pandemic, I’ve been researching all sorts of different programs that might aid me in mastering the Shogun Method. It appears to me that Shogun Method takes some inspiration from NLP. So I wanted to personally ask you, what other programs would you recommend that are out there? (aside from the amazing Shogun Method)

Hey Derek, I have a few questions:

(1) My Primary girl hasn’t responded to any text since January and I’ve been freezing her out since the last failed text a month ago. The earliest I can break the Freeze out is May 20 because I have exams. (For context, she almost never responds to anything when she’s at college but when she’s home she’s always quick to respond with long walls of text if I start with an intrigue ping. I don’t excessively text. She lives within walking distance of me so maybe that plays a factor?) I will not be able to see her in person until after May 20 since I still have exams. Of course, the very first thing she will hear from me will be an Intrigue Ping followed by a story, but my primary goal is to get her to meet up in person for an event in late June and begin the rest of the IRAE model from there. How can this be accomplished without breaking Precondition #2? I’m leaning towards asking her with an Implanted Command but I don’t know how that would translate over the phone and I’m not in the Attract stage yet. If I ask direct again and she turns me down, I could text an anti-demand but I’m worried it would leave me in a digital rapport stage, which I don’t really want because that seems like another form of contextual rapport. The only other thing I can think of is randomly “bumping into her” while on my daily neighborhood walk and asking her there. Thoughts?

(2) My Primary girl’s grandmother suddenly died on May 8 and the funeral is on May 17. Should I freeze her out longer? Should I mention anything or express condolences or just not bring it up? I would think her pain limit is higher and action limit should be lower, but I don’t know if that applies in this situation since the Pain Limit is the discomfort related to her interaction with me, not her grandma

(3) I attend a religious school and there are many seminars/lectures we have to watch that critique “Hookup culture.” I know that Shogun Method is amoral and you favor enslavement and long-term relationships over PUA. However, the speakers at my college respond to PUA hookup culture with what appears to be a highly idealistic response. I asked them for a detailed explanation and this is what they gave me:

“Bobby, you need to understand that the girl you love is not an Object but a Person; Persons are not Objects to be manipulated, designed, or judged by any standard other than that of Persons. Each Person is, unrepeatable, unique, incommunicable, and infinitely precious. The act of seducing a woman, whether with the usage of pickup techniques or controlling her mind via psychological manipulation, would take away her rational free will to choose to love you, objectify the woman as nothing but her aesthetic value, and disrespect her Dignity as a Human Person. If you truly Love her, you wouldn’t seduce her but treat her as a Person and be open and honest.”

I’m obviously on your side, Derek. I’m just wondering how a Shogun were to respond if I were to hypothetically argue against it. What does Shogun Method define as “love?” How would I respond to the accusations of so-called “objectification” of women? (Won’t leak Shogun Method, promise!)

(4) I’m going to buy another program in the summer, which one would best deal with my Primary not responding when she’s at school? I would assume a failure to respond would be caused by a lack of sufficient intrigue on my part, but I don’t know if the Intrigue Black Book or Texting on Steroids would be more relevant to this context. (Just out of curiosity, how come references to Enslavement on the sales pages are replaced with E-Addiction? Did you get attacked by sjw’s and were forced to change it?)

(5) When I practice Shogun Method on other women, should I opt for lower or higher SV women? I have a -1 or -2 SV gap with my Primary and I don’t know if it would be good practice seducing someone when the gap is in my favor since it would be way easier and I might make a mistake and not realize it

I’m married and have been friends with this couple for long time (15+ yrs) and we are good friends but I started to feel attracted to my friends wife and a year ago I kissed her. Since then she been going back and forth on whether it’s the right thing to do as she sees my wife as her best friend/sister she doesn’t have. She’s mentioned more than once that doesn’t believe in marriage as an institution nor loving just one person entire life but because of her relationship with my wife she cannot take it to the next level with me. We have mutual attraction; she says she loves me but not like the way I would want it. Unfortunately just recently I let her know my intensions of making love to her. The other day we met for lunch but she kissed me unwillingly and later that night she sent me this text saying: “I don’t want to do this anymore. I don’t think I can give you what you are looking for. I’m not comfortable doing this. I cannot keep stressing about this going back and forth (this in ref to my wife’s relationship with her). I almost feel forced into doing things I don’t want to because my heart is not in it. I do love you but can’t love you the way you want me to, so its best to put a stop to this. Please understand and leave it be.” She’s given me mixed signals in the past and one of the reasons why it dragged a year long going nowhere and has come across as confused person at times.
Please advise am I to continue to pursue her or this relationship is dead and just leave it be and move on? I have told her that I can’t be just a friend anymore like before. I purchased shogun method in the hopes that I can fix this and re build my attraction level. What should I do?

Derek,

This is a very simple question. I haven’t tried the shogun method on anyone yet but I have been studying in depth every module. At the final phase, transformation of the module 7, Can you make your own name up instead of Persephone? Will the process work ? Just wondering. Thanks